ABT Airsoft Battle Field Event

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ABT Airsoft Battle Field Event

Postby SCROUNGE » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:37 pm

ABT Airsoft Battle Field will be having an all day events. As always there is a waiver to sign and must be 18 y/o, if under 18 a parent must be present to sign. There is an fps restriction of 400fps outside and 330fps inside for any CQC/CQB events. ABT will have a chrono on site. Max. players allowed will be 60 due to field restrictions. There will be a $15 charge per player to help us get some gravel for the field.
Depending on how many show up will determine the amount of teams. Gorilla-Sim, no camo or mag restrictions. ABT Airsoft Battle Field is located at 2011 NE 373rd St, La Center, WA. Directions upon request.
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AS OF 4-21-2008 THE ABT CQB/CQC HOUSE IS NO MORE. SOMEONE HAS BURNED IT TO THE GROUND. It appears to be arson but it has not been proven as of yet. There was no insurance on the house; since no one lived there the insurance company would not insure it. Hence it is now a pile of ashes and ruble with just part of the east deck that is burnt and barley standing. So if anybody was coming out for CQB/CQC, don’t bother now since the house is gone. We are still going to have the event, as you can’t keep us down, we will get through this and still have fun. Bill / SCROUNGE
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Postby Martin. » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:55 pm

so if a fight outdoors gets pushed indoors are there going to be problems with people shooting into/out of buildings at 400fps?
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Postby Stalker » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:13 pm

hey i'll be there!! +2
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Postby User19632 » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:33 pm

I'll try to be there, I was planning on going to Longview to visit relatives the week before.
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Postby SCROUNGE » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:38 pm

I for one do not want to get hit up close at 400fps. The house games get very up close with everyone shooting at each other. It is very hard to call "safety kill" as you are rushing in the house, so it will be pistols (that have to meet the fps limit) and lower fps rifles that may or may not be on semi only. Just depends on how everyone feels about it at the time. 8)
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Postby rkdlittle21 » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:30 pm

Im there..
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Awesome...

Postby book42 » Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:14 pm

M.S.G. Recon will be there- anywhere from four to six players. Couple new players will be joining us (as usual).

Very much looking forward to it, Bill.

See ya' soon...

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Postby KA-BAR » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:12 am

scrounge wrote:Main event will be a sim operation- Depending on how many show up will determine the amount of teams. No camo or mag restrictions.



you cant have both...... either is a milsim with mag restrictions, or its a shootout with box magged M4's. both are very seperate and diffrent. if you say its a OPsim/milsim/tacsim people will expect mag restrictions.....if you have no mag restrictions then its just a skirm.


skirms are usually free and open to the public.
OPs/CQC/training events are usually what people are paying for.

if you need help with game orginisation or on field admins ( only saw some at the TT game) then myself or alex-kaeda would be happy to get a OP going that will draw a crowd and raise funds to supply you with gravel for your parking area.


with that said, i keep bringing up the same suggestions, you keep ignoring them....LOL




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Postby RatchetJaw » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:03 pm

:shoot2: :shoot2: The brothers Grim will be there.. (Just like we always are..) shooting the breeze with the FNG's that build there flames for the love of airsoft.
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Postby SCROUNGE » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:04 pm

I thought that when you had your last say on the previous posting battle was because someone used a box mag on a M-4, and that was not MilSim, even though that was just a skirm. When you came to the ABT Airsoft Battle Field again last Saturday the only thing you ever said to me was something like “there’s that M-4 with a box magâ€
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Postby SCROUNGE » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:07 pm

Opps, forgot to put that my last post was for Garret.
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Postby Wiley » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:18 pm

Terra First is in, numbers TOB.
TERRA FIRST QUESTIONS LATER
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Postby Howe » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:32 pm

I think another way to say what Morgan was getting at might be this... I had a good time at the skrim on Saturday but I wouldn't have been willing to pay $15 for it. There was too much variation in weapons. For example a few pistols vs. everyone else with AEGs, 2000 round box mag vs. 20 round sniper mag, etc. Yes the examples I mentioned the underdog happened to win but I'm just trying to make a point. We were just winging it on what games to play and that's cool but people aren't going to pay for wing'n it.

You need to be extremely organized: If you have no respawns then put a time limit on the game, and have the next situation/skim ready to go after the game, 5 min to reload then go... people don't like to play a 20 min game then wait 20 min for the next one.

Weapons need to be standardized: If one team wins it should be because they had better tactics and/or were better shots than the other team. Now this isn't a slam at the guy who had the M4 and 2000 round box magazine but for any sort of milsim people need to have the same number of rounds in their magazines to keep it fair. Be VERY upfront about what weapons are allowed and what size of magazines are allowed.

Objectives: Try to come up with some fun and interesting objectives. Keep it simple though, if you try to get too fancy it never works :)

I'm not claiming to be an sort of expert on how to host a game, these suggestions are simply my ideas that I feel would result in a successful airsoft event. These ideas are meant as constructive criticism and are in no way meant to offend or put down you or your field. Because I like you, I enjoyed our conversations and I like the field :D
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Postby wake.joe » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:51 pm

26th needs to get here faster!

Come on, I'm all ready to hit ABT field again!
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Postby Nocte » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:17 pm

If it's not your event, I don't see why you care what OTHER people are using, as long as you're not shooting a hot gun or doing anything unsafe.

If I want to post OP:Kickass and allow PSG-1 sniper rifles with the G3 box mag on them, that's my call to make. It'd be MY game. Now, that's not necessarily in the definition of mil-sim, no, but if it bothers you that much, just don't go.

If enough people don't show to my event, then maybe I'll look into what it is people don't like. In other words, an event promoter will ask for advice when he thinks he needs it. If you feel you have helpful advice to give, being courteous when delivering that advice will go a long way.

Let's get back on the topic of the game being announced, not what magazines someone else was using at a game from two weekends ago.
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