AP: "Sniper Shoot" Competition.

[acid]

Heheh. Maybe now you can compete with my brother and I. At Belligerence you seemed to be tired of getting sniped

Weren't you the sniper team I chased down with the training knife?

own3d,

[Anglico]

I am Looking Forward to this like no other. Please take this event serious. For those of you using this as a training evolution do so with the highest standards of the craft. This will be for some a refresher, others a trial by fire. So for the ones who think this will be a walk in the park, Think again. And remeber for those of you preping your gear. "WOODLAND" Goodluck to those of you who feel up to this Challange. "I'll See You In Your Lane."

[Eyes On]

Hehe, and if he doesn't see you in your lane, I sure as hell will.

"Walker, 50 feet right...Stop. 30 feet forward... Stop. Card his busted a$$ back to the rally point!"

[Seagreen]

And participants, Casca, Anglico, and Ohhya, will be your Observers for this event.

May God have mercy on your souls for they will not.

[Mono]

I've heard of a technique used in the actual Scout/Sniper course by observers, where they will instruct walkers to move across an area, then back and across the area again. Obviously, if the sniper is in that area, regardless of whether or not their fieldcraft is perfect they cannot avoid being tripped over. No, it's not fair, but who ever accused life of being fair? (:

I can't wait to see the sort of tricks you observers have for us...

[Seagreen]

We will deal with those problems as they come up. I will have a default point for the walkers to be at in the field. They will stay basically in the center of the lane. The observers will not use field glasses to spot with. The ranges and skill level of the competitors just doesn't make it feasible.

The walkers will be told or radioed depending on how they want to do it.

Id play every dirty trick I could if I were on the stalk. If I was spotted, I would do some slithering as quickly as possible to negate a solid fix. If the observer/walker combination isnt arm's reach, you are not reset back to the start point in this event. This will make the Observers job more difficult and require the walkers to adhere to exactly what the Observer wants them to do.

Oh this is so going to kick a$$.

[Eyes On]

And the observers will not be using any sort of initiative. If I am off by five feet, the walker is not going to tag you even if they are aware of your exact location.

[KA-BAR]

ok just so i am tracking all this....

casca, OOHYA, angelico are our observers. how mant walkers will there be?
are the observers posted by the target? or does one observer stay at the target and direct the other two as "walkers"?

do observers initiate and direct where they want the walker to position, then they call out sniper if they belive they have the snipers position, then that walker either confirms the position?

now if the walker is right on top of your position, and a observer has yet to spot you, the walker cannot card you back to rally correct?

if the walker is directed to your position and you are still not seen by the observer, does the observer ask for a reference, and has the walker put his hand over or ontop of the snipers head? what is this action called?

i am sure i will have a few more questions.....and trying to creep up within 75 ft of casca or angelico will be damn near impossible and any one who wins this shindig better know that they really earned something. i have set my goals, and it seems i have set myself up to either put up or shut up. 75 ft., both shots, with dudes like casca, OOHya, and angelico watchin out is going to be probably one of the most difficult things i will have ever done, if i am successful.



KA-BAR out

[chapped]

Any word on the venue for the event?
I've been doing a bit of research on the construction and theory of a ghillie and it got me to wondering where the event might be held. I am picturing the various fields I've played at (McMinnville, Scappoose, Splat Action, etc.) and they all have terrain and flora all their own.
I'll be building my first ghillie prior to this event and seeing how I haven't done it before I expect it to be a slow process. While I suppose the 'base' colors of the ghillie would be similar amongst all the fields we play at their are still attributes specific to each field.
If I were building a Ghillie for Splat Action I would start with a clown costume (to help blend with the multi-color, paint marked trees and structures,) and then blend ALOT of brown jute to mirror the heavily traffic'd, muddy terrain.
Seriously though... Any word on the venue?

Edit> This got me to thinking more.
Given the short range nature of airsoft sniping are you giving greater consideration to using a denser foliated environment for this event? I suppose it's all relative. The best will shine through regardless where the event is held.
Sorry for all the questions. It's just that I'm starting to get pretty jazzed about this event.

[Eyes On]

ok just so i am tracking all this....

casca, OOHYA, angelico are our observers. how mant walkers will there be?
are the observers posted by the target? or does one observer stay at the target and direct the other two as "walkers"?

I plan on staying at my position within 20 yards of the target and directing the walkers as needed. I don't know how many walkers there will be, and truth be told, you don't need to know that. Read on to find out why.

do observers initiate and direct where they want the walker to position, then they call out sniper if they belive they have the snipers position, then that walker either confirms the position?

The walker is a neutral party. He can not call you out without me putting him on your position... period. He also can not flag your position to me or any of the other observers.

now if the walker is right on top of your position, and a observer has yet to spot you, the walker cannot card you back to rally correct?

Not unless the observer tells him to card you. He has to act like he only sees what I tell him to see.

if the walker is directed to your position and you are still not seen by the observer, does the observer ask for a reference, and has the walker put his hand over or ontop of the snipers head? what is this action called?

If the walker can't seem to follow my directions to your position, I will either lase the area I want him to go to, or come out and tag you myself. The Walker or Observer can touch you anywhere they wish, even on your no-no spot. The act of making physical contact is called "Tagging".

[Seagreen]

We are locking down a location. I have spoken with a few field proprieters. In all likleyhood this event will be held in a location that has been unused by AP hands.

This will give no one an advantage when making their moves on target.

[KA-BAR]

here is another question,

a ghillied dragbag? how important is it for a event like this. is it a piece of usless equip in a airsoft event such as this, or is it a make or break picece of gear?

when dealing with thick undergrowth, does the DB become cumbersome and noisy? i can see using a drag under conditions where there is a large open space and you do not want your ghillie profile to be broken by a firearm. but in the thick, wont it get hung up on the odd branch revealing your position? i know it sounds like a overkill type of question, i am just looking to make my options and chances of success that much more in my favor.


KA-BAR out

[Seagreen]

I never had a use for the drag bag. I cradled my stick and had it at the ready if the need arose.

[Mono]

I can see the utility of a drag bag only in real-world situations. Drag bags keep your rifle safe, dry and zeroed while you cover the distance to your FFP. Miles, at the least. With the distances we're talking about in airsoft, I wouldn't recommend any more kit than you absolutely have to keep on your person. Drag bags are great when you're far enough away that it can't be seen through your hide, but we're going to be damn close to the objective when we unload. The report and cycling of the bolt will probably be enough to determine my position, I'm trying to figure out the best way to silence my gun completely...

My advice? Leave your spare mags, your inkstick, your picture of your wife and kids, even your sidearm if you think it'll hold you back. This sort of competition is all about bringing the best fieldcraft you can muster for two shots. Anything that drags, shakes, rattles, bumps, creaks or clicks is a liability.

Will we be required to wear eye protection for this Competition, since we won't be shooting at other people?

[Seagreen]

The report and cycling of the bolt will probably be enough to determine my position, I'm trying to figure out the best way to silence my gun completely...

That is the other part of the fieldcraft aspect.

Im not sure about eye protection for this event. I will default and say yes because there will be more than one player on the same stalk, but we'll address this the day of the event.