BSP CHALLENGE JAN 24-25 2009

[Osmo]

Good thing I had the helmet cam that mission....

Don't get your hopes up too much. I had a helmet cam for CQC6, and none of the footage made the final cut.

My high speed tango-dropping skills remain a secret.

[Fury]

Here you go I have one picture from this last weekend thanks to Stu.


Hoping that this will get the ball rolling.

[john boy]

That is why from now on there is going to be a go no go grade for trigger control and target ID.

Shot a camera man or judge and you get docked.

Then tell your camera men not to stand behind or close to the OPFOR next time. I sprayed a camera man because we behind a OPFOR, getting that killer shot. Make them wear prison orange suits if you don't want them getting shot..

[TRAUMAHAWK]

I agree with Ron, RW civilians get in the way and do not wear bright orange. Lets develop some target identification and trigger control skills.

[Jester316]

All you other teams are lucky. You ran the PSD in daylight. You could see what you were shooting at. My team did it at night. Didn't matter if the camera people were wearing bright orange. Although, I do agree with John Boy, a cameraman standing directly behind a target is likely to be shot, no matter who is behind the trigger. But, if you wanna look amazing in the photos/video, those camera people are essential. I know when I did photos for Op: Lazarus, I expected to get shot every time. So, I've been on both sides, and see how both arguments are valid.

So, here is the solution (as I see it, and I know my opinion is not really cared about):
Players: better target ID skills
Cameramen: TRY not to stand in the line of fire, but if you do, don't complain about being shot*


*I don't think anyone was really complaining.....

[pittsmen]

If I may interject. All those excuses for camera men being shot are lame, and a bit sad.

First all of our Media people where wearing orange, I know because we had to yell at them at the start of every iteration to hide so they wouldnt let the upcoming team key off them.

Second... And this should go with out saying, but since seeing this last event it is apparent there has been a serious decline in the community when it comes to skill and talent.

If you have a target in site it should be three shots at the most. Two in the chest one in the head. But dont take three if one does the job.

The fact that people are spraying and blind firing at targets is just.... well its just kinda pathetic.

This is my own personal opinion, and I was not a judge in this compitition and you should all know that even though I was an actor I never gave my opinions on a team after its runs, nor did my opinions affect the scoring of this event. This was by far the worst display of marksmenship I have ever seen in the near 8 years that I have been in this community. As actors we were actually taken "Hits" when it seemed people had run out of ammo they were throwing at us.

There were a few teams that did a good job getting their shots on targets, even if they hit some civies. And they were mostly vet teams.

The fact of the matter is not only should you be expected to know how to fire your gun, you should be expected to fire it at the correct targets. I promise you, in the future you will be tested with shoot no shoot situations where you dont have the benifit of orange vests. You will have to make split second assesments of your target, AND shoot it.

Dont take this the wrong way. For the level of training that I saw went into this then you guys did a good job. But we all have A HUGE amount of room to improve.

[Nocte]

all of our Media people where wearing orange

Incorrect. Fred was not wearing an orange vest.

Most of the rest of your points still stand, however (minus the condescension).

[Matt]

Let's dress an unarmed pregnant woman in BDUs next time we have a CQC competition. Let's see how many people shoot her. When you riddle her and her unborn child with bullets, you can say...

"But she wasn't wearing orange."

Yeah.

[Deliverator]

Why the hell would some random pregnant lady be wearing BDUs? I mean I could understand like just a polka dot dress or something with flowers on it. Maybe something with the same pattern as the ACUesk couch... but not actual BDUs...

If you want to bring civilians into it, instead of just throwing camera men out there without orange vests get more actors, keep all the camera guys in orange vests so that you don't break camera gear or injure camera men. Have people in plain clothes with safety glasses and all that be out there "running for cover" and screaming and crying and shit. You know, the little kid standing in the middle of a war zone crying like a stupid little phony pony while his mother is hiding behind a dumpster screaming for someone to "save her baby"

[Tombstone]

Your right, after the years of training the government put me through to give me target acquisition and trigger discipline i should really...oh wait...I'm just a dude with a toy gun playing soldier in the woods.

[Deliverator]

I'm just a dude with a toy gun playing soldier in the woods.

*winces* Toy.... that is a faux pas's
Here in the "community" we prefer "replica firearm". [/joke]

[john boy]

If camera men don't want to get shot then they shouldn't be embedded in the enemy line. The largest target we say was chapped on the roof of the building. We plainly saw his vest and didn't fire on him. But if your holding a camera running with the OPFOR, expect to get yourself shot...

[Deliverator]

I think what they were complaining about mostly John Boy is that people were spraying at the cameramen. Meaning some of it was NOT incidental fire but they were targeted and fired upon directly.

Not saying your team did it, I'm not saying anyone's team did it. Just saying that is what they are talking about.

[john boy]

I think what they were complaining about mostly John Boy is that people were spraying at the cameramen. Meaning some of it was NOT incidental fire but they were targeted and fired upon directly.

Not saying your team did it, I'm not saying anyone's team did it. Just saying that is what they are talking about.

Nice..

[Seagreen]

If you don't wear something that designates you as media, you run the risk of being shot. Plain and simple.

In most games, you still run the risk of being shot with an identifier.

It's just part of the game. No one here is high-speed enough to never make mistakes.